12v anomalies - or 'believe it or not'

Submitted: Tuesday, Oct 16, 2007 at 13:31
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Went to Mandura boat show last weekend, saw an AGM battery fully submerged in a fish tank, yes actually under water, it was powering a water pump.

Sitting on top of the fish tank was a Solar panel, it was charging the battery, it was only putting 1.2 Amps into it, although it was rated at about 3 Amps.

Probably because it was inside a tent with no direct sun on it though !!

Yes, as I said just anomalies ! !
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Reply By: Vince NSW - Tuesday, Oct 16, 2007 at 13:44

Tuesday, Oct 16, 2007 at 13:44
The water must have been VERY clean or you would expect discharge between the poles of the battery.
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Follow Up By: disco1942 - Tuesday, Oct 16, 2007 at 18:36

Tuesday, Oct 16, 2007 at 18:36
Not really - even with muddy water there would not be much leakage current. Remember it is 12V not 240V. Fire fighters spray their water through HT lines with no problems. The biggest problem with leaving it there would be electrolysis consuming the metal bits.

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Follow Up By: JTPrado - Friday, Oct 19, 2007 at 18:10

Friday, Oct 19, 2007 at 18:10
Just did a measurement. Tub of Sydney tap water, power source 12.6 volts, two probes 30cm apart. Current flow measured 2.5 milliamps (that is 0.0025 of an amp). That would take a long time to discharge a 90 amp hour battery!

I am a volunteer firefighter and when we have to spray water in the direction of powerlines we use special nozzles with a rotating teeth on the front which breaks up the water stream into separate droplets so the electricity cannot travel down the water.
See:
http://www.brushtruck.com/Secure/ecommerce/Catalog.asp?prdc=87

Even then we are still very careful. It only takes 60 milliamps through the heart to kill you. This is quite achievable at the voltage that you get in power lines!

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Reply By: Member -Signman - Tuesday, Oct 16, 2007 at 14:34

Tuesday, Oct 16, 2007 at 14:34
Just add a spoonful of salt!!
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Follow Up By: Member - Andrew (QLD) - Tuesday, Oct 16, 2007 at 19:00

Tuesday, Oct 16, 2007 at 19:00
ROFLMAO.....good trick. :-)

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Reply By: Robin Miller - Tuesday, Oct 16, 2007 at 14:43

Tuesday, Oct 16, 2007 at 14:43
Just a good party trick Mainey

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Reply By: Derek from Affordable Batteries & Radiators - Tuesday, Oct 16, 2007 at 22:12

Tuesday, Oct 16, 2007 at 22:12
I have seen this before at the Absorbed Power office.



All AGM's will do this trick. (Not recommended and will void your warranty) ;-)
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Follow Up By: Mainey (WA) - Wednesday, Oct 17, 2007 at 09:14

Wednesday, Oct 17, 2007 at 09:14
I think of a "trick" as being something that is not totally what it appears, however the battery was there to show, and indeed prove, sealed AGM's don't vent any gas to the atmosphere and are safe to use under water and also in the cabin of motor vehicles as gas does not escape, and water does not enter the case and dilute the battery acid.

The part I found interesting was the Solar panel working inside a tent, out of direct sunlight.
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